Date Posted: 2005-08-29 07:25:42.
Subject: F-16 with Full effect thrust vectoring nozzle
Name:
Message: I was just wondering if anyone had heard about an expiremental F-16 with a thrust vectoring nozzle that is more advanced that the F-119 in the f-22. The nozzle I am referring to doesn't just move up and down, and side to side. but the nozzle segments themselves actually move the exhaust air. Where as the F-22, the thrust vectoring is limited to up and down. With the F-15 ACTIVE, it has axis-symmectrical thrust vectoring as well as the Su-37. But on those two aircraft, The tailpipe duct itself moves. On the F-16 I am referring to The nozzle segments the parts that open and close are used to direct the exhaust air in just about any direction. I would like to hear if any of you know where I can find info on this aircraft or engine.

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Tony Rogue aka Trigun5

Tony Rogue aka Trigun5

Date Posted: 2006-05-17 15:16:58.
Subject: F-22 vs. Eurofighter, round 1 fight!
Name: archvile
Message: ok to be honest it would be a good contest. The raptor has stealth, thrust vectoring and is made of carbon fibre composits but personaly i really am going with the eurofighter especially in a close range dogfight. the eurofighter is very munuverable at low speeds although the rapter has thrust vectoring that really dosnt help the plane at low speeds. the eurofighter has a very well shaped wing structure and canards for very good manuveralbility at low speeds. the raptor may have stealth but that dosnt make it invisible to radar it just gives it a very low signature and at close range and radar is not realy useful.

Date Posted: 2005-09-25 14:39:36.
Subject: YF-23 or YF-22
Name:
Message: Where did u get that crap about better Speed,Ceiling and manuverability. The F-22 could go 70 degrees of alpha which the Yf-23 can only go 25 degree of alpha. The thrust vectoring gives the F-22 a major leap in manuverability. The F-22 could out manuver the Yf-23 w/o vectored thrust. They both have the same ceiling because the airforce restricts fighter manufactures from going over the ceiling of 50,000 ft because of safety reasons. And the F-22 has a max speed of over mach 2 and the Yf-23 could only go Mach 1.8. The F-22 has a supercruise of 1.58 and the Yf-23 only went Mach 1.44 for super cruise

Date Posted: 2008-08-30 14:42:48.
Subject: F/A22 or X35? Which is better
Name: examples
Message: ok people the advantages of the f22:

thrust vectoring
twin engines(more speed more safety)

disadvantages:
cost 338 million dollars

f35 advantages:

ctol stol stovl(modified thrust vect.)
cheap 30 million dollars

disadvantages:

neutral stelth
not real fighter(fighter bomber)

Im not saying either side has an advantage.

Date Posted: 2008-01-21 19:30:12.
Subject: Mediterranean War!
Name: vector
Message: (f-16) We keep imagining and talking about War between US and RUSSIA or CHINA. But how about other countries...Like the rivalry between TURKEY and GREECE. If they ever got into a war who would be more powerful. Let the facts talk...

Date Posted: 2007-08-21 12:51:51.
Subject: THE A-10
Name: typhoon_tycoon
Message: if it had afterburners it could go mach 1+. but it would need a half decent airbrake. Canards and thrust vectors would be sweet...

Date Posted: 2007-08-21 12:49:47.
Subject: US vs RUSSIA
Name: typhoon_tycoon
Message: both sides have lethal aircraft, JSF, raptors, eagles against flankers, terminators (Su-37) and Berkuts. Speaking of which, why doesn't it have thrust vectors?

Date Posted: 2007-05-21 14:12:44.
Subject: f 15 vs su 37
Name: firstsgt_cap
Message: Thank you........oxusaf. That is exactly my thought, I would say that it would probably depend on the pilots because they are pretty much equally matched. The Su-37 has dual 360 degree thrust vectoring engines, but maneuvers such as the Cobra maneuver are worthless in battle because of how much time it takes, but then again without knowing its maneuvering capablities it is hard to judge.

Date Posted: 2007-05-14 08:19:33.
Subject: F/A22 or X35? Which is better
Name: z_man43
Message: The x-35 is just an experimental fighter for the new upcoming joint-strike fighter, the f-35. The f-35 is designedto take off and land to cv using Vertical Short Take Off and Landing V/STOVL as well as land based landing sites. Although the f-35 is newer than the f-22, its no match for the f-22's air superiority. The f-35 is meant for all purposes such as aerial combat, bombing etc. (multi-role). Its a supersonic fighter, but overall, the f-22 beats the f-35 by a long shot by means of stealth, bombing, and aerial attack given that the f-22 has superb thrust vectoring abilities, not to mention that it is alot faster, with super cruise and top speeds in the upper mach 2 range.

Date Posted: 2007-04-23 13:35:09.
Subject: US vs RUSSIA
Name: oxusaf
Message: Money, people that is what it comes down to. The Mig 1.4 and Su 37 are awesome demonstrator aircraft, but they do not have the money to pursue the production process. It is known that russia is in the process of rebuilding their airforce and I believe they are using Mig 29's and completely upgrading the avionics and installing thrust vectoring however... Remember this fact the F-35 and F-22 technology is over 20 years old. The technology was developed in the 1980's. Look up Advanced Tacticle Fighter Program and now all these countries are just now working on their own similar programs.